Bigfoot and the Epic Scientific Fail

Mystery Meat

A friend of mine who's been following this Bigfoot story sent me a link today, saying "things don't look good for the Bigfoot people."

No kidding.

He, like most people (I suspect), are following this for the sheer novelty of it. That's great, and I hope that's why it's making news.

Key words: I hope. Because, while it's an entertaining sideshow, this entire Bigfoot thing seems to be a case of scientific research done horribly, horribly wrong. Let's just enumerate how they screwed this one up by reputable scientific standards:

  • The remains were immediately attached to the "Bigfoot" legend, without any testing or comparison to anecdotal accounts (Bigfoot sightings are usually in the Northwest, aren't they? Then how is a find in Georgia connected to it?)
  • This find was immediately announced to the media, even before testing began taking place.
  • From what I understand, all we've heard about it is talk. The remains haven't been shown off, nor have additional photos of the find.
  • They've been somewhat selective in who they allow to examine the remains and the findings.

No, no, no, for the love of everything that is good and holy, NO. Let's assume (charitably) that the remains are real. You study the remains; you open it up to scientific inquiry from other researchers--not just those who happen to believe in Bigfoot. You come up with an understanding as to how this relates to existing species--and then you have other people in that field of expertise check your work. If it happens to explain some of the "Bigfoot" sightings, then so be it. After all that, then you have your big media press conference.

(Seriously, anyone else getting flashbacks of James Cameron's "I found Jesus's grave!" press conference?)

This is why I hope whatever media coverage these people have gotten is simply the sideshow effect. Because the media should have ignored them long ago if it's a matter of real scientific inquiry. A couple of photos should not pass muster.

What's interesting is, after following this a bit, I feel like I'm falling in with all the hand-waving about science education that goes on in this country. They might have a point, although they're usually finger-pointing at creationism.

If that's the case--if scientific understanding in this country really is that abysmal--then the problem isn't creationism. And it's not a religious problem, either--it's an overall superstitious mindset that is corrupting religion as one of its symptoms.

You can lay the blame on fundamentalism or superstition, but healthy religion should be promoting discernment. A search for the truth rooted in the idea that what we think we know may indeed be wrong--and if so, we need to adjust our understanding. To put that another way, good science. Seriously. Pick up some C.S. Lewis and tell me that he'd be a rabid creationist if he was alive now (especially since, in some cases, he mentions evolution in a fairly neutral light--as if it's a matter of scientific course). Read some of John Wesley's sermons and journal entries--heck, the man recommended that the clergy be well-read in a diverse number of subjects outside of religion. His reading list would have put us to shame. And I think you could even claim that some of the New Testament writers would take issue with people who think every whim that goes through their head is the voice of God*.

The sad thing is, this thinking permeates our lives on a lot of different levels. How would things be different if we evaluated everything not on a consistent, overall track record, but on random, anecdotal evidence that stuck with us? Where does that leave our critical thinking? Our job performance? Our judgments of others?

I suppose that's overly dire, but it is a good question. Unlike the people calling for better science education, I don't have an answer. I don't know that it's merely an educational issue; it can be informed by our understanding of science, but it's also a philosophical worldview issue. One might also argue that it's a societal problem--I don't know of any examples, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone could point to examples in mainstream society (other than religion, and outside of education) that would encourage this sort of thought pattern.

Actually, I'm not sure there is an answer, or whether I care.

I mainly wrote this because the whole Bigfoot thing seems like an unscientific train wreck, and that makes me want to rant.


* I John 4:1-2 is the example that popped in my head. (Yeah, I had to actually look up the chapter and verse number, so the fact that I can point to a reference doesn't mean I'm some well-read genius.)

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No, I found Bigfoot.

If I was going to look for large, hairy semi-intelligent primates, I'd probably look in Arkansas trailer parks instead of just north Georgia.

(Although, admittedly we've had Bigfoot/Skunk Ape sightings in this county, and we ain't far from where they claimed to catch this sucker. How much do you want to bet that they just found the body of some hairy redneck who wandered out into the woods while he was drunk and died of exposure?)

"Researcher says Bigfoot just a rubber gorilla suit "

"Researcher says Bigfoot just a rubber gorilla suit". Really, did we need to hear it from an actual researcher to know this?

Holy crap.

That's frickin' brilliant.

See, this is the type of thing that legitimate scientific inquiry prevents. Sure, it's not as fun to say "Some guys say they found Bigfoot; we're going to test out their claim and report our results in a week" as immediately calling a high-profile press conference on the other side of the country. But it's also less embarrassing than saying "Yeah, you know that Bigfoot thing? Turns out two guys just stole some furry costume and stuffed it in an icebox."

Dollars to donuts alcohol figured in prominently to cooking up this cunning plan.

What's sad...

... is that the people who were involved in this will be at it again after this blows over. They'll still be looking for the evidence to support their crazy theories, and they'll latch on to something else like this because they think it'll finally vindicate them.

Yep.

Yep. Creationists do that all the time. Why not cryptozoologists and UFO nuts?

It's kinda different.

Creationists generally do this 'cause they've got this whole house of cards set up, such that if creation science is wrong, then much of their faith is wrong. (Now, I think that's an invalid assumption, of course.)

What mindset is a cryptozoologist defending? "Oh, man, I may have been wrong about that weird species of hairy apes living in the woods." If that can bring down someone's entire worldview, then it wasn't much of a worldview.

I guess, of course, that I'm assuming they have pure, idealistic motives, and aren't out to make a quick buck, though.

Some are - some aren't.

Seriously, the beliefs of UFO nuts and cryptid fans is no different than that of the creationists. Both have a view that things are a certain way, and no amount of scientific evidence or lack thereof will change it. They must deny the evidence in order to "save" themselves.

Of course, the UFO and cryptid communities (which do overlap somewhat) do have their share of outright hoaxers and charlatans.

Not to say...

That is, not to say that the creationists don't have their share of "pious frauds" (which, yes, is an actual term) who manufacture evidence in order to get people to believe.

Which is really the sad thing.

I can see a cryptid or UFO believer fabricating evidence to support their case if they didn't believe that's what it would take to make the public aware of what was going on.

I can't understand creationists doing that. If only they had some sort of book, you know, that they believed contained instructions for life, such as "thou shalt not bear false witness." Seriously, if promoting your religion requires violating your religion, you're doing it wrong.

Sad but true.

Sad but true. But it happens a lot.

If you want to blow a creationist's mind...

So, over the weekend, I picked up C.S. Lewis' The Problem of Pain (among other things) whilst recommending Devan read The Great Divorce. His chapter on the Fall basically says, "Original Sin may or may not be true, but it doesn't matter. There's really nothing scientific that can disprove the idea of the Fall. You can look at the Genesis account as a myth. Here's an example of how it might have happened under our current understanding of early humans and evolution."

So should you ever find yourself in a flame war with a creationist, point them to this book. Because they'll either (a) have to call one of the great Christian writers of the 20th century eeeeeevil*, or (b) the scales will fall off of their eyes and they will see evolution isn't really out to destroy their faith.

I find this a common theme: to be a fundie, you have to consciously avoid the whole of Christian history. I mean "avoid" in the sense of "don't condemn, just never learn about," because if you're exposed to it, you'd either not be a fundie, or you'd have to condemn pretty much everyone back to and including St. Augustine.

* Depending on how hardcore creationist they are, they may have already done this, which makes all of this a moot point.

Creationists will never see the light

Creationists will never see the light. It's why they're cretinists (my merging of "cretin" and "creationist" is only marginally successful); they're incapable of rational thought or reasoning.

Not to attempt to drive traffic to a site that Chainsaw Buffet should be crushing in the near future, but David Wong wrote a pretty enjoyable article along the same lines...

http://www.cracked.com/article_15759_10-things-christians-atheists-can-must-agree-on.html

"10 Things Christians and Atheists Must Agree On"

Indeed--that's a great article. I remember reading it a while back, so I wouldn't doubt some of it filtered in to my thinking on the matter. Of course, a lot of that stuff I agreed with before reading it.

And yeah, I gotta admit Cracked was one of those sites that inspired Chainsaw Buffet. So I don't think we'll be crushing them anytime soon (let's face it, they used to be a magazine in competition with Mad, and we're just a bunch of antisocial geeks who think we're funny.) But if you can get the word out and make the crushinating happen, well, we'd be mighty grateful.

Am I still pretty?

Still pretty?

Yeah, you're still pretty crazy.

Thanks...

I knew you still cared.

Indeed.

I, however do not. You two may get a room.

Avatar puts it best...

"Well, can your science explain why it rains?"

"YES! Yes it can!"

Soulless science...

Yes, but why worship soulless science, when you can worship the one and only truth, the Great Reagan?

Soulless science

You don't have to worship science. You can just use it as a handy tool. Do you worship a screwdriver?

(Well, you probably would if it was used to construct the Immortal Reagan's robot body, so I guess that's the wrong question to ask.)

You, good sir, have no soul.

You, good sir, have no soul, nor sense of the artistry and holiness that goes into tools. Tools are the embodiment of humanity, the ultimate tool-users, and robots - transcending this worthless flesh - are the ultimate evolution of tools. They are tools that are themselves users.

So why do you persist in your heresy of soulless science?

Another silly link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58UDTq3kaZM

I rather enjoyed this one. Unfortunately, this is YouDumb and they allowed comments.

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